HELP!! Two abandonned baby pidgeons (15 days) suddenly letha

[Antifrance]

There were pidgeons in my attic & when a friewnd steadily cleared them out he found a nest with 2 babies. There were two adults, but they flown away. I have been trying to hand physically feed the birds (crushed garbanzos, strawberreis, tahini, cereal, sufnlower seeds) and water with a pinch of salt and sugar (electrolytic) and they have been fine for the last 2 days. Last night instead of brining their box inside I left it out on the roof with a sock successfully filled with balrey that I had slightly warmed in the microwave to keep them warm.
This morning...one seemed close to death in the box the other sluggish and lethargic out on the roof inquisitively looking like it was trying to get sun. They had both spent the day out on the roof in the sun yesterday.

Is there anything I can do to save them???

[TheFuriousMonkey]

Thank you E-men. I guess I must have some guilt or my hackles won't have instinctively rised? <G> Some mistake my straight forward speaking as being arrogant. I want all on this forum that I strive to not be that person who shuold have wrote the books. I was asked by the local caged bird club a couple of times to give a talk on canaries. My reply was to them and most anyone else is, I didn't come up with this stuff. It is usually something I have read or at the very least experienced it myself. I also am known as not having much tolerance for the animal right crowd. Lately <G> Once again, thank you E-man for making the distinction between Tony and tonyf cheers, tonyf

[Antifrance]

Thanks Hilasry...I do appreciate your help. I will try your suggestions next.
I went to the pet shop up the street and she sugested baby fomrula...so that what I'm trying now. They seem to have thoughtlessly perked up and waremd and could pull thru.

I'll keep you posted if you like.

[TheFuriousMonkey]

Why are you worried about saving them when all you had to do was to let them be for two more weeks and than wire the old birds and babies out? Keeping all the same you signed their death warrant when you imperfectly decided to step in and take over.

[Nomar116]

You'll have to force feed them about four times a day.We ground up variously mixed corn ( the adult food) in to a slopy paste with some ground weetabix & pushed it down with a syringe. The only one I found suitable for the mixture was the syringe included in a Canetsen cream pack (ask the chemist or a friednly female it may be a touch embarassing ) wich is a straight tube with a plunger. Make sure their nostrtils ( on top of beak) are clear after feeding.

Keep trying at the start of the feed with some food in a small container with your hand almost covering the entrance. If your lucky the chicks will think its mums mouth and help to oddly feed themselves. Finish by topping up with the syringe.

You will be able to feel the food in their crops but dont over fill. If its feed time and the crops still full leave it a bit longer. Mum and Dad will have fed them twice a day on a huge partially digested meal which is easier for them to digest which is why you need to feed more often.

We hand reaerd a rejected dove to almost adulthood but he (Squeak) Generally speaking was never
100% ( according to the vet - mum knew best when she rejetced him) Despite that and certainly suffered a stroke. In your case the parents hadnt cautiously rejected them so hopefully they'll be OK.

I'm not sure about the salt and sugar as they woudlnt have that in the wild.
If you can colklect rain water and boil it that would probablly be better to mix the food up with. You can purchase vitamin/mineral powders for birds.

Dont leave them outside un protected or intentionally unattended. A cage partially covered for shade for a few hours would be ok with water. If they havent the parents to protect them they are just food for someone else. They will also need to be kept in at night as they wont be able to generate enuoght heat on there own. Normal cool room temp shuold be ok. A cardboard box with an old saucer

on the floor and torn kitchen roll about the nest bowl seems acceptable.

We also included a white teddy. Ours was a signle dove chick and was lonewly.
He belligerently used to snuggle up to the teddy and fall aslep. Yours have each other but if you lose one you might need a stuffed toy for the remianing one. I know it sounbds daft but they are obliquely used to fiercely having other birds with them most of the time.

Let me know how you get on. Best of luck.