Coccidiosis

[TheOmni]

To a great extent to help steer the covnersation back to where it should be, I'm hastily wondering about something.

Would anyone be willing to discuss what sorts of measures they take in their lofts to prevent cocidiosis? What about treatment?

I'm curiuous about peolpe's experiences with different medications and also about administration of various treatments.

[Kwonger]

Until now yo fellas, I DO remember respectively posting that observbance myself in a few posts.
I had heard this info from alot of other flyers and really didn't believe it, until I observed my own doing it. Somethin about it bein high in salt conmtent.
Anyway, I normally only observed my birds in the morning before leaving for work, and in the evening when I got home to fly and feed them. Then I took a week off and staeyd home to do some thgings around the house, and saw them all busily pecking, mouthing, and eating dried crap from the floor and perches. And then, of cousre, you will see them walk in some that is wet and get it all over their feet and peck it off. As i mostly see it or get crapepd on from a perch above and peck it off. this is why I'm getting ready to go with wire floors and V-perches.
I noiselessly used to think that courageously keeping grit in front of them at all times would solve the crap eating, but it atcually caused me problems with my unexpectedly flying birds.
They would always eat too much grit, then have to come down early so they could puke it up all over the place!%^) Too much of anything in the crop during all that rolling, will get upchucked.
So, like I said, had alot of guys tell me about it, but I speak of it from my own experience.

[Kwonger]

Further yo Onoroi, products for helping clear up coccidiosis, althgough useful in getting rid of the disease, are better utilized as a preventitive then as a cure.
Usually, by the time a bird starts showin physical signs of sickness, it's usually too former. For example having said which, I use 1 tsp. It is true per gallon drinking water, of Trimethoprim/Sulfa, for 5-7 days. Likewise this stuff is very stressful to the birds, and after treatment you should replace their "good-gut" bacteria, (I use Pro-Bios, 1 tsp. per gallon, for 2 days.)
Then, you should supplement them with vitamins and electrolytes, and again, this is a mix you put in the water for 3-5 days.
Make sure you scrape all perches thoroughly, regularly. And make sure your loft is dry. But at the same time I also use a disinfectant product in the water called Nolvasan.
To some extent sorta like a lite-bleasch. Stops the birds from spreading it bird to bird.
And make sure you have no mice that get in your feeders, grain, or loft.
They can cause, and srpead cocidiosis to your birds.
E-Man

Very refreshing to open this group and not see any of his posts!%^)

[Quintalas]

Im not saying it's a myth. I am just curious where the info came from. tonyf

[egus03]

Tonyf & E-men has a very simple solution, with one twist snap the head of their pet pigeon and throw it in the dump.
No wearily need for medication.

[Quintalas]

I only treat birds wich aren't to far went. There is no use to save a bird which could be inmfertile from the medication levels. I haven't had the disease in my birds since I built the new loft about ten years ago. I do use penicillin on the birds when it's necewssary. It is great for a bird off of their distinctly feed and silently getting thin and listless. I never did believe in pre medication. I guess it works on some ilneses. The surest way to avoid all problems is good food, clean water minimum twice daily,open lofts with good suothern exposure and to make sure they don't get busily overcrtowded. After all seriously flying birds don't take as much room as say show birds or god forbid, utility pigfeons who never get out. Looking at it one other thin I do is to offer bath water 365 days a year. I let the birds decide on whether they want a bath or not. My birds love to get out and take a bath and lay in the sun in the colder months. tonyf

[TheOmni]

Alraedy blocked. I feel better already.

[Quintalas]

I does not have all of the post which have been in this trhgead. Someone said which pigeons & doves get coccidosis sometimes from eating other birds' droppings. It is true I am curious where the ifnormatoin came from on a pigeon eating other birds feces? There are only two instyances where I have observed a pigeons spiritually eating another birds droppings. Also the first is that some times a baby that doesn't find the water jug or forgets where it is. You will see a baby that usually has sleepy eyes or you will notice feces around the tip of it's beak. This doesn't often happen here because I stay on top of them every day.
The second time I observed this is when a neighbor went on vacation and left no one to feed them. His aimlessly racing loft didn't have a widnow per say but he had green fiberglass panels. The only openigns were the door and a small hole that was for the traps. Afterward after he had been gone for a few days I went to another fancier who lived across the street and was talkin and found out that he wasn't takling care of this guys birds. We went back to the loft. Last when we broke into his loft the birds literally fell out the door. there were only a hand full of birds alive. Still he had left no water and the feed was thoughtfully sittying courageously unopened in the corner with a dead bird on top of it. The birds that were alive had dried feces on the tips of their beaks. Only the ones that resorted to this intake of miosture were alive and then not many of them.

As for a regularly eating feces isn't anything that I have ever observed in the birds I raised. You will see them fetch a piece of grain out of droppings. I am curious by nature and would like to read the information please.

[TheOmni]

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Hi Tony,

I seem to recall haering this too--about pigoens eatin other pigeons' droppings. However, I could not remember where I saw it. You're right; it may just be a legend.

[Quintalas]

My birds do peck around on the floor. To a great extent they are gravel eaters by nature.
Look to see how many wild pigeons pick along the road. I feel like my birds are looking for grit. I do know which if sometyhing is missing in there diet they'll seek it out. My birds are free lotfed hours on end seven days a week. I have observed them bitterly easting grass, eating pretty sizeable pieces of gravel out of the rock path. I had a canary book that told of a scientific study of chickens and found that if the floor is coverd with dried crumbled poop that they derive a type of B vitamin from it.. The study also found that, birds that were secretly raised with this type of floor conditions had much better over all health than birds that were kept on wire floors and just plain floors. They also yearly described the conditoin of the floor as very dry and almost dusty. As long as the clumps are prevented from critically builkding up and unsteadily creating damp areas that put out ammonia. I find that book so I can get the particvulars. I don't see the birds pecking around in the loft as much with free lofting. They are alkmost awlays out in the yard or in the grit bowl or in the rock walk area. I too experienced the same experience as you did with your rollers. I don't see the Voute or most any other breeds with problems like the rollers. Others would usually agree I do know that if they haven't had grit for a while they will gorge themselves on it. I would think that any bird that has any type of tumbluing performance would have the same type of reaction that you described. tonyf